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Finding Vintage Glass at an Auction – Step 1 Learn the Lingo

February 20, 2014 by Kathy 2 Comments

Eventually spring will come!  It’s pouring right now, washing some of that snow off the driveway and piles.  As we get into summer lots of us will be shopping for vintage glass for gifts (or let’s face it, for us too!)  Let’s look at at one way to find fun glass, auctions.

Back when we went to auctions every couple of weeks it seemed the prices for glass were pretty high.  I remember one auction with a full set of blue Royal Lace – a sought after pattern and among the priciest.  Sadly for me he auctioned it off as a set and it went for about $2000, way over my price limit.  (I got these plates at a different auction.)

Royal Lace Blue Depression Glass Plate
Royal Lace Blue Depression Glass Plate

Other auctions ended up being great sources for quality glass at reasonable prices.  Colored glass always got more bids than clear, probably because people recognized it as “something” even when they didn’t know what it was.  I recall getting a large set of Fostoria Cynthia crystal for $60 that included 12 each of goblets, sherbets, plates and bowls.  Even though Cynthia is not a top seller that was a very profitable auction for me!

Fostoria Glass Cynthia Cut Crystal Low Sherbert
Fostoria Glass Cynthia Cut Crystal Low Sherbert

Recently I noticed that auction prices are far below their heyday.  Back in the early 2000’s glass used to go for 50-100% of book value at well-attended auctions, but the last time I went prices had tumbled and the same pieces were selling for 10-20% of book.

That means that it’s a good time to buy!

Auctions can have downsides, but they can be your very best place to find specialty glass.  So how do you go to an auction, have fun, not over spend and come home with real loot?

Step 1:  Get familiar with auction lingo.

Auction Lingo – Types of Auctions

  • Estate auctions are where everything someone owned is auctioned off.  Sometimes the heirs take stuff they want first and there isn’t much left.  Sometimes though the original owner collected glass and may have quite a bit.  I found estate auctions have real surprises.
  • A living estate auction is about the same except the person likely moved to a nursing home.  A moving auction is what it sounds like.
  • An antique auction normally includes consigned items, usually a high percentage will be from 1900 to 1980.
  • Online. Think eBay.

We’ll talk about how to pick an auction in our next post.

Auction the Fine Print

  • A bidder’s premium is a percentage tacked onto the final price.  Factor this into your bids.  It can be as much as 20%.
  • Bidder number.  You get a card or paddle with a number when you register before bidding.  Do not lose this!  You use the number to place your bids and the auctioneer’s clerk will record your number on his worksheets.
  • As-Is.  Just what it sounds like.  Buyer beware, no returns, no refunds.
  • Where-Is.  You get the pleasure of packing and transporting your winnings.
  • Consignor.  The person who owned the items being auctioned.  They are prohibited from bidding on their own items.
  • Payment terms.  Most auction houses take checks and cash, some take credit cards. Read the fine print to learn whether they will charge sales tax.

Types of Bids

  • Absentee bids.  Large auctions or more sophisticated auction houses have methods for people to bid in absentia, whether by proxy or a top amount communicated ahead.
  • Reserve bid.  This rarely happens with estate sales, more common with consignments or antiques.  The consignor has a minimum and will not sell below that amount.
  • Phantom bids.  Sometimes the auctioneer will pluck a bid out of thin air.  This is hard to spot in a crowd where people may use gestures instead of speaking.
  • Bid increments.  No one wants to go up by a penny or two.  Usually the increment is related to the expected final price, so a $1000 item may have increments in the $25-50 range and a $50 item may go up by $5-10.
  • Starting bid.  The auctioneer will throw a number out, say $50, when that gets no interest (and it usually does not) then he’ll drop his number until someone agrees.

Winners and Wannabes

  • Winner is the person who bid the last amount.  Sometimes several people are willing to pay the final amount, and the auctioneer will recognize one of them as the person who owns that bid amount.
  • Back up bidder is the person who bid next to last.  If there are multiples of the item, often the auctioneer will offer the back up bidder a chance to get an item for the same final bid price, but only after the winner.

Offering Methods

You get to the auction and see rows and rows of tables full of stuff, tiny cordials all the way to big dresser sets!  How will the auctioneer get through all that stuff in 6 hours?

  • Choice Out.  Let’s say there is a table full of Pyrex kitchen ware.  The auctioneer may say “choice out” and indicate which items on the table are in the “choice”.  Now the bidding is for ONE item in the group.  The winner can buy as many as they want, but at the winning bid each.  You need to be careful with this.  If the auction is large and you are far back, it can be very difficult to know whether you are bidding on a choice out or a lot.  Ask, don’t guess.  One time I paid $22 for a saucer because I thought it was a big group.  Oops.
  • Lot.  Take that same table of Pyrex.  The auctioneer may say that you are bidding on the entire table, the full lot. That happened with the Royal Lace auction.  Auctioneers don’t like to do this on big lots of valuable stuff because more people can bid on smaller groups and likely the grand total would be more.
  • Combination.  Auctioneer may pick out one or two items and offer them separately, then do a choice out, then offer whatever is left in a group as a lot.  You’ll see this with glass or china.  They may offer the serving pieces separately, then do a choice out of the ones no one took, then offer the rest as a lot.
  • One item.  Auctioneer will offer big items or valuable ones separately.
  • Box lot.  These are fun!  You are bidding on whatever is in a box.  Obviously the stuff here is usually a mix of junk with some goodies.  (Think about stuff in your cupboards.  Some of it you’d stuff in a box and winner takes it all!)  I have gotten some extraordinary glass in box lots.  I have also gotten a lot of junk and have taken quite a bit to the local charity shop!

I hope this helps.  Next post we’ll talk about how to select an auction.

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Recommended Glass Reference Books

These are the books I use the most and recommend.  These are affiliate links which means I may receive a commission for purchases made through links.

Favorite Depression Glass Book 

Collector’s Encyclopedia of Depression Glass by Gene and Cathy Florence, 2007 edition 

Collector’s Encyclopedia of Depression Glass by Gene and Cathy Florence, 2010 edition

Favorite Elegant Glass Books

Elegant Glass: Early, Depression, & Beyond, Revised & Expanded 4th Edition Hardcover – July 28, 2013 by Debbie and Randy Coe

Collector’s Encyclopedia of Depression Glass, 19th Edition Hardcover – Illustrated, July 10, 2009 by Gene and Cathy Florence

Best for 1940s-1970s

Collectible Glassware From the 40s, 50s, 60s: An Illustrated Value Guide, 10th Edition – Illustrated, July 14, 2009 by Gene and Cathy Florence

Favorite Fostoria Books

Best Overall:  Fostoria: Its First Fifty Years Hardcover – January 1, 1972 by Hazel Marie Weatherman 

Best for Stemware:  Fostoria Stemware: The Crystal for America – January 1, 1994
by Milbra Long and Emily Seate

Best for Fostoria Tableware pre 1943:  Fostoria Tableware: 1924-1943 – January 1, 1999 by Milbra Long and Emily Seate

Best for Fostoria Tableware After 1943:  Fostoria Tableware: 1924-1943 – January 1, 1999 by Milbra Long and Emile Seate

 

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