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Book Review Sunday – Gene Florence Collectors Encyclopedia of Depression Glass

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Florence Depression Glass 19th Edition

Florence Depression Glass 19th Edition

Today’s our first Book Review Sunday, where I’ll go over some good – and not so good – reference books about elegant or depression glass. Today it is Gene and Cathy Florence’s Collector’s Encyclopedia of Depression Glass, which is the last in this best-selling series. I’ve read that Florence’s ongoing series of books, updated every 2-3 years since the early 1970s, are best sellers in the collector / hobby genre, and I can believe it based on my experience.

This latest – and last – offering in Florence’s series is the 19th edition.  The changes from #18 are minor.  Florence added no new patterns; some of the photos are new but by no means all.  The prices for many patterns were adjusted, mostly downwards.

Positives for the Book

  • Florence has detailed piece lists, many with dimensions.  This is very helpful if you need to decide whether your piece is the dinner plate or chop plate.
  • Florence includes his observations about the pattern, whether it sells well or has reproductions or how common it is, for each pattern.  Most of these are interesting; some are entertaining.  In this edition I noticed fewer comments of the “seller didn’t know what they had” type which is an improvement.
  • The text explains some of the confusing pieces and gives detailed dimensions.  I have a big set of Patrician to list and relied on Florence’s clear description to decide whether I had jam dishes, cereal bowls or butter bottoms.
  • He mentions patterns that have been reproduced in the body and gives more details in the back section.  He covers each pattern that has been reproduced clearly and gives tips to distinguish real from repro.
  • This 19th edition, like the last few, has piece guides and photo legends which is great.  After selling glass for over 10 years I don’t need this quite so much, but if this had been available when I first started it would have been great.  As it is, some patterns have goofy shapes that become clear with the photo legend.
  • Lots of color pictures.
  • Price.  Amazon lists this for $16.47, and if you can find another $9 book or what have you, you get free shipping.  Florence stressed that he and Collectors Books worked hard to keep the book affordable and it certainly is reasonable for all the quality information.

Not So Positive

  • The repro section gives good information but shows photos of the repros.  It would be more useful if it included side-by-side photos with the comparisons.  Of course this would have taken more pages and probably increased the price.  Personally I’d have gladly paid another few dollars for this.
  • Photos are good for the most part.  There are a few where a close up would have been helpful.  Confusing patterns, like Old Cafe vs. Fortune, would be easier to tell apart with detailed pattern shots.
  • Like any price guide this is user beware.  I’ve written before about my Eureka moments about price guides.  You simply cannot take these as gospel truth.  Do your research and know what your business strategy is when you set your own prices whether buying or selling.

Why You Shouldn’t Rely on Price Guides

  • One canard this book should dispel is that there is any relationship between Florence’s price lists and whether he is buying or selling.  Since he retired this year he is most likely in a selling mode – and his prices are mostly down.  Like any successful person Florence attracted his share of criticism, both real and not.  This is one nasty story that can be put to bed.

My Recommendation

If you collect, buy or sell vintage glass, you need this book.  Even if you do not collect or sell depression glass, it is useful to know what you see when you see it.  And if  you do collect or sell depression glass this is essential.  Buy the book.

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January 24th, 2010  
Tags: Book Reviews, Collecting Depression Glass



Fostoria Glass Green Loop Optic Vase

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Fostoria Glass Loop Optic Green Flip Vase

Fostoria Glass Loop Optic Green Flip Vase

This is a neat vase that I almost didn’t buy.   A man at the local flea market sometimes saves special glass for me and this is one of those pieces.  I didn’t much want it, but he really wanted to sell it and he gave me a good price on some other glass, soooo,  I did the decent thing and bought it from him.

When I got it home and did some research, the more I looked at it the more I felt it was actually from one of the elegant makers.  The quality is not as high as some of the best Fostoria or Cambridge pieces but it’s not depression either.  And it is not new, likely dating to just before the 1930s.

The loop optic is not real common.  The best identification I could come up with is Fostoria line 4900 with a loop or drape optic, dating to 1926 to 1934.  That fits well with the way the vase feels to me, general quality and finish.

Now the grand announcement why I chose this particular piece today.

Catladykate’s Having a Sale

This vase is one of about 50 items we marked down 30%.  I do the occasional 10% markdown but 30% for glass is very uncommon for me.   There is a reason.  I need to clear out some of my older inventory because I just bought large sets of Sharon pink and Patrician amber depression glass and need the room.   (It’s also Christmas and everyone enjoys a sale.)  So if you like sales and you like glass on sale, come check us out.  And by the way, a lot of our china is on sale too.


December 12th, 2009  
Tags: Collecting Depression Glass, Depression Glass, Elegant Glass, Fostoria Glass, Green Depression Glass



Why You Shouldn’t Rely on Price Guides

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Duncan Millder Sandwich Glass 10 inch Deep Fruit Bowl

Duncan Millder Sandwich Glass 10 inch Deep Fruit Bowl

Nice bowl, right?  Yes, it is Duncan Miller Sandwich pattern, good quality glass, nice ground base, useful salad bowl, rather hard to find size, so on and so forth.  So what’s not to like?  If you collect this pattern – and I hope you do – this is a choice piece you will be glad to own.

This is a cautionary tale about relying on published price guides.

Don’t get me wrong, Gene Florence and his fellow authors do a superb job cataloging glass and making it accessible to everyone.  Without the books buying glass is a leap in the unknown.

The problem comes in when you rely solely on the published values to buy or sell.  About two years after I started my business a collector offered me her entire collection of Duncan Miller Sandwich glass.  This was a huge collection filled with unique pieces like candelabras, nut cups, cigarette boxes.

Like an idiot I relied only on my trusty reference books to set prices.  I put rare pieces out on eBay with buy it nows of exactly book value.  I put common-as-grass pieces out the same way.  Needless to say I have very few rare pieces left and lots of the hard to sell stemware, cups and saucers.   I found this salad bowl hiding in a box, which is why it’s still available.

Do buy the books.  I highly recommend Gene Florence’s Collector’s Encyclopedia of Depression Glass and Coe’s Elegant Glass.  Both are excellent with good photos.  These books are responsible for glass being so popular to collect:  It is easy to know what you have, easy to have a clue to the value, and fun to learn more.  Just don’t rely on the book values without doing more research and some sanity checking.


December 10th, 2009  
Tags: Buying Glass, Collecting Depression Glass, Depression Glass Books, Duncan Miller Glass, Identifying Glass



Tips from a Compulsive Depression Glass Shopper

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Sharon Cabbage Rose Pink Depression Glass Creamer

Sharon Cabbage Rose Pink Depression Glass Creamer

OK,  let me admit I am not completely compulsive about buying depression glass.  I lured you to read this under false pretenses.  Of course, what do you call it when you feel this urge, this need, this oh my gosh, I just HAVE to go check out Craig’s list?  Excuse me a minute, please, while I go see whether anyone listed more pink Sharon on eBay.

See, I am more or less rational about it.  But I do enjoy depression glass.  And it’s a lot of fun to buy it and it’s a lot of fun to look at.

So that you don’t decide this post is never going to get to the tips part, let me give  you a glimpse into the world of shopping for depression glass.

1.  Condition matters.  Condition matters a lot to you the buyer, and it probably matters more to you than to the person who sells it.  So ask before you buy.  If the person selling the glass cannot tell you about every little imperfection and blob in the seams they probably are not very observant.

2.  How much you care about condition depends on how you plan to use your pieces.  For instance this Sharon pink creamer has a tiny nick in the bottom of the foot.  That’s probably OK.  A plate with wear is fine if you want to use the set for dessert service but it’s not so fine if you like everything to be perfect.  A cup with a gouge in the rim is probably not OK to use and maybe not so bad in your china cupboard.

3.  If you are buying in person instead of online then check, recheck, then re-recheck.  I have missed more little nicks and rough spots than I care to remember and I do this as a profession.

4.  Buy what you like.  If you like blue glass, then buy blue glass.

5.  If you enjoy a few patterns then consider whether to collect all of them.  It’s fun to have something to shop for, vs. just wandering aimlessly down the aisle looking.  If you have a couple patterns then you have more chance to find something when you go looking.

6.  If you do have a couple of patterns, or you decide to collect certain pieces, then it’s nice if they somehow go together.  You could collect different patterns of amber glass or creamers and sugars.  Of course, remember rule #4.  Buy what you like.

7.  You probably don’t plan to resell your glass, but you might change your mind someday or you might accumulate enough to worry about a separate insurance rider.  Keep track of what you bought, when and where and how much you paid for it.  I have a small database in Access to track my inventory; that is probably overkill for most people.  A spreadsheet or a nice notebook work great.

8.  I highly recommend you get a book or two and read up on your glass.  It’s fun to know a little about what you like and it will give you a good idea what to look for and about how much to pay.  Most of the depression glass guides by Barbara Mauzy or Gene Florence are fine.

9.  Last tip is the most important.  Have fun.  This is a hobby, not a job.  Enjoy your glass and enjoy shopping for it.


November 25th, 2009  



Top Tips to Collect and Enjoy Depression Glass. How to Get Started Collecting.

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Dogwood Pink Depression Glass Sherbet Macbeth Evans

Dogwood Pink Depression Glass Sherbet Macbeth Evans

Last month we shared the Top 10 Reasons to Collect Depression Glass.  OK, so you are convinced, but now what?  How do you start with this fun hobby?  There are so many patterns and pieces to choose among that it’s easy to get lost trying to decide which one is for you.

My advice?  Start with a book or a blog like mine or browse a website such as our eBay store, www.Catladykate.com or larger site www.CatladykatesGlass.com and see what appeals to you. Don’t worry if you can’t make up your mind just yet.

Go ahead and pick a couple pieces, maybe in different patterns or colors. You can find glass that won’t break your budget and I’m always glad to help you with shipping cost by packing glass together. Or if you find a piece you like, go ahead and email and ask about it.

The main factor is whether you like the pattern and color, but also consider how many pieces a pattern was made in, the overall price range, durability and whether it’s plentiful enough that you can realistically find something when you shop.   Depression glass that came in a wide range of pieces will be more fun to collect than one where you have only a few shapes to pick up.  The wide selection sometimes means you have more than one size of a tumbler or a serving bowl available to you.

The pattern we show here, Dogwood in pink, is a great choice.  It is very pretty (as you can see from the sherbet); there are many pieces available including tumblers and serving pieces.  MacBeth Evans made Dogwood and it is pretty durable, just like their American Sweetheart and the shapes are not prone to nicks.  It is priced in the higher medium range.  It’s about even with American Sweetheart, more than Block Optic, but well under some of the higher priced elegant patterns or hard to find depression sets.  Oddly enough the sherbet is rather expensive.  The sherbets are usually pretty inexpensive in most depression glass, in the $5-25 range, but the Dogwood pink one retails for about $40.  Cups are about $15 and serving bowls are $60, so it is affordable.  It is also available, always good.

Even if you are not sure, there are ways to reduce your risk.  If you get a few pieces in Dogwood, like the one shown here, then decide you don’t like it, you can probably sell it and move on to the next pattern.  It’s hard to sell glass well online, like on eBay, but often you can do well at garage sales if you advertise your pattern.  While I would not advise collecting depression glass to fund your retirement, you generally are going to do OK as long as you buy quality pieces in good condition.

Regardless of pattern you choose, the main thing is to start!


October 10th, 2009  
Tags: Buying Glass, Collecting Depression Glass, Depression Glass, Dogwood Depression Glass, MacBeth Evans Depression Glass, Pink Depression Glass



Enjoy the Fall with Amber Gold Depression Era Glass

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Viking Glass Georgian Honeycomb Gold Amber Sherbet

Viking Glass Georgian Honeycomb Gold Amber Sherbet

When the leaves turn color and it gets cold we all look for warm colors and richer hues.  But as we get ready for Thanksgiving or look to decorate with harvest themes we may lack choices in our glassware and dinner settings.  That’s where amber colored glass can help.

Amber is a rich golden color and you can find amber glass ranging from a lighter yellow brown to the richer red gold color like this Viking Georgian sherbet.  Using a set of sherbets like this will add instant warmth to your table and show your hospitality.

Over the years I’ve noticed an increase in amber popularity and it is now one of my better selling colors.  Amber fits into today’s decorating colors better than during the period that dusty teal and raspberry were tops for home fashions.  The earthen colors and warmer natural tones of clay or birch are perfect complements to a rich amber bowl or golden stemware.

Try amber glass for a fast way to bring fall’s cheerful colors into your home.


October 1st, 2009  
Tags: Amber Depression Glass, Depression Glass, Elegant Glass, Viking Glass



Collecting Depression Glass – Where to Start?

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Hocking Cameo Dancing Girl Yellow Depression Glass Grill Plate

Hocking Cameo Dancing Girl Yellow Depression Glass Grill Plate

We shared our top 10 reasons to collect depression glass:

10.  It’s beautiful!

9.  It’s stylish!

8.  You’ll feel good!

7.  Stop being hard to shop for!

6.  It’s fun!

5.  They don’t make this any more!

4.  Set yourself apart!

3.  Reuse with Pizzaz!

2.  Enduring Enjoyment!

and number 10:  You tell me.  Post your comments here and the best one will receive a coupon for 20% off their next order from our store Cat Lady Kate’s Elegant and Depression Glass. We’ll let the contest run one week, until midnight on September 15.

That brings us to the topic, where do you start?  Browse our blog and our store and select a pattern that appeals to you.  Consider how you plan to use it.  Do you want a set for lunch?  for dessert?   Or are you fascinated by the creamers and sugars and want one of each?  Pick something  you like and order a piece or two.

If you’re not sure, then try one of the most popular patterns, like Cameo from Hocking we show here.  People like this pattern because it is beautiful, stylish, different and lots of fun to collect!

Choose what you like, but choose something!


September 8th, 2009  
Tags: Collecting Depression Glass, Depression Glass, Hocking Depression Glass, Topaz Yellow Depression Glass



Top 10 Reasons to Collect Depression Glass – #1. What’s Your Reason?

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Pilgrim Glass Amber Owl

Pilgrim Glass Amber Owl

I’ve given you lots of reasons to collect depression glass.

It’s your turn now.

Why do you collect depression glass?

Our wise old owl here – and our glass loving community – want to know!


September 2nd, 2009  
Tags: Amber Depression Glass, Collecting Depression Glass, Depression Glass, Elegant Glass



Top 10 Reasons to Collect Depression Glass – #2. Enduring Enjoyment!

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Fostoria Glass June Azure Blue Two-Handled Bon Bon

Fostoria Glass June Azure Blue Two-Handled Bon Bon

Recently a prospective customer emailed me to share her dilemma.  She got a few pieces of depression glass and wants more.  Her problem?  What to collect.  And if she does collect depression glass, will it go the way of her Beanie Baby collection?

My advice is to find what you enjoy, what makes you happy to see it, happy to hold it, glad to own it.  You can collect pieces of blue glass, or get a few plates and cups for lunch, or go after a single pattern.  There are enough choices to please everyone.

Will your depression glass be another Beanie Baby, doomed to stay in boxes?  No.  It won’t.  Beanie Babies were made deliberately to be collected.  They are like collector plates, created so you would buy several.

Depression glass is different.  This is something that people used every day and it might have been the only spot of pretty color in their homes.  In the depression housewives didn’t have extra money and for many, their glass was the only beautiful thing they owned.

That alone makes depression glass special:  that connection to the past, that sense of owning something that was special.  Depression glass is not a manufactured collectible; it is the real thing.


September 1st, 2009  
Tags: Collecting Depression Glass, Depression Glass, Elegant Glass, Etched Elegant Glass, Fostoria Glass



Top 10 Reasons to Collect Depression Glass – #3. Reuse with Pizzaz!

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Hocking Mayfair Open Rose Pink Depression Glass Pitcher

Hocking Mayfair Open Rose Pink Depression Glass Pitcher

Depression glass is the ultimate in reusing and recycling stuff that has use left in it!  You’re taking something that is 70+ years old and enjoying it, using it, displaying it.  You can feel good about using something that gave people pleasure many years ago and give yourself credit for saving something lovely from the dust heap.

Whether you buy colored glass to sparkle in the sunlight or want to set your table with a full set of pink depression glass, like this Hocking Mayfair pink depression glass pitcher

This isn’t the best reason to collect depression glass. But with the need today to recycle and resuse, what better way is there than to combine fun and enjoyment, beauty and style with yes, reusing with pizzaz?


August 29th, 2009  
Tags: Collecting Depression Glass, Depression Glass, Hocking Depression Glass, Pink Depression Glass



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